I've been thinking about them the last two weeks every morning when I wake up and close my eyes," she said. She has always denied this allegation and says that both she and Lawrence Slaughter are innocent. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. Its never been made clear. Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. A man was convicted Thursday of helping to hide a brother who was accused of murdering his teenage daughters in Irving more than 12 years ago, the U.S. Attorneys Office announced. Family members found Joanns tan Toyota sitting vacant in the parking lot of McCartys, a nearby bar. Shes being well taken care of.. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. j} [gut('bIKL|kY4`a;]MQ p2x $kw. Thats because they knew it was a stretch to make anyone believe she would still be so enraged a week and a day later that she jumped into a van and drove 550 miles to kill a woman and baby she never met. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. You took my life. And NOBODY saw her at all? Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. [emailprotected]. How is it that these women are paroled? Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. Every type of cut, bruise etc would heal perfectly in that time. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? Patricia was relieved when police took him for custody after 12 years of her daughter's murder. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with Her mother, Patricia Chambers, provided day care for their baby son, Charles. Its totally irrelevant. 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Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. Have a tip or story idea? Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. This woman killed and is where she belongs! The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. . Jenkins at one time had hired Allen Prue to plow her driveway. Judges may have the discretion to reduce a felony in a wobbler case to a misdemeanor. If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? Some lawyers call microscopic hair analysis junk science that today wouldnt qualify as evidence in a trial like Rorrers. Disagree with Soon after, Kopta lost her job because she was seeing things and her behavior was disruptive, and then she began to walk the streets to spread her message. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. Lie detectors are pseudo science. John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. On Aug. 31, 2011, at 11 a.m., Wrights family, the Action Committee for Women in Prison, and the FACTS community and supporters gathered in front of Gov. Traupman died in 2016. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. (Ross Township Police Department). Its nine minutes into the video. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. Todays arrest of their father, Yaser Said brings us closer to ensuring justice is served on their behalf.. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. I expect she will admit it one day. The hearing of the motion for reduction of felony to misdemeanor will be held Tuesday, Oct. 11, at 1:30 p.m. in the Riverside Courthouse at 4050 Main St. in Department 42. Just one example. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. Instead, he hid for 12 years until the FBI found him in a relatives home in Denton County. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. I am sorry it ever happened at all.". Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. pTq r |G.H=IO-I7`,|&m2tj1Lo;{~}squ_~zpMq7 DNA also doesnt lie. Patricia complied fully with the original investigation of the crime and wasnt a suspect because none of the blood or fingerprints found at the crime scene matched hers. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. "If she could do that as a woman, my God.". As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. Just saying. If I see anything that offers a differing opinion or is inaccurate, I think its entirely fair I should say my piece. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! All rights reserved. Prosecutors say a 911 call from the night of the murders proves that Said is guilty. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. It seems so, according to you. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. In your future life in prison I trust that not a day goes by in which you won't revisit your crime.". They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. Am I missing something? Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. No charmed life. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. Flawed justice: the wrongful conviction of Kerry Baxter Sr. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Yaser Said had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the fatal shootings of his daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, on New Years Day 2008. I would have liked better her being put to death! She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! How would an intruder find it? Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. "I suggest that it stands for a moment in time where people actually take a moment to take a serious look at how we allocate our resources to social services. Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a fine of $2,000. Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight.